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Bejeweled is like tetris attack, not tetris. It shares few elements with tetris at all.

Bejeweled is more simple than Panel de Pon/Tetris Attack though, it's kind of like...TA without moveing or something. Perhaps reword it to that effect, might help. Melodia Chaconne 12:53, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bejeweled has also been made into a mobile phone version, and the version distributed by Jamdat has become wildly popular within the mobile phone world.

Accessible Version

I would like to add a link to a switch accessible version of bejeweled that my students developed. This version allows users who are severely motor impaired to play this game using one button only. I think it is relevant to be added as other popular games sometimes have a section that describes accessible versions of this game.eelke (talk) 17:56, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jewels?

Bejeweled 2 Deluxe screens refer to "gems", and presumedly all versions of Bejeweled do. Also, the article links to gemstone. Why then does the article refer to "jewels"? Brian Jason Drake 07:23, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like a simple mistake to me. AFter all, the game's name is Bejeweled, not Begemmed. — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure that the game refers to the objects as "gems" in all the games, so perhaps it should say gems instead of jewels to maintain consistency with the game itself? I'd rather double-check before I make any edits. - S. Komae (talk) 21:43, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I already changed all references to jewels to refer to gems in this edit, except for the one in the Twilight mode description, which was added later (I've just changed that one too). Brian Jason Drake 03:20, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hidden modes

My understanding is these only exist in Bejeweled 2 Deluxe, and are specific to the original mode. The article is not clear on this point. Brian Jason Drake 03:22, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved the information to the "Hidden parts" section and expanded it a bit, but haven't confirmed it (I can confirm that high levels also trigger hidden modes - I've done it myself.). I removed the example of a hidden mode as these things are supposed to be hidden and it isn't really necessary (we don't give details on the visual effects either). Brian Jason Drake 11:55, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Zoo Keeper first?

I know that Zoo Keeper is a bit older than people realize. There was a PS1 release in japan as part of the SuperLite series, and maybe older versions than that. Also popcap are notorious thieves and Zuma is blatantly lifted Puzz Loop, which raises my suspicions even more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frogacuda (talk • contribs)

Be that as it may, unless you cite a source, you can't put such assertions in a Wikipedia article. Doing so is WP:OR which is completely against Wikipedia policy. You can mention that it's similar, but you can't accuse PopCap of "idea piracy" without citing a repudable source. It is entirely possible that they came up with a similar idea indpendently. — Frecklefoot | Talk 21:55, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering this myself. There's this, Zoo Keeper/Zooo, Lunatix, probably many other clones whose names I forget. But we equally can't claim that PopCap created it originally without a trustworthy source. -- Smjg (talk) 16:03, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Advertising prohibited

I just want to make this clear: using Wikipedia to advertise your pet project is prohibited. An anon user keeps adding links to Linux Bejeweled clones. Sorry, that's not an appropriate use of Wikipedia. There are hundreds of clones of Bejeweled, what makes these so notable apart from the fact that this user likes them. I am reverting them AGAIN. If you have a problem with it, bring it up here. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 18:34, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

anon's messages —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.218.26.90 (talk) 01:18, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reference Article

Here's an article which could be a good reference about the development of Bejeweled from (or at least similarity to) earlier puzzle games: http://www.jesperjuul.net/text/swapadjacent/

Logotu (talk) 17:36, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I think the reason it is included in the aritcle is to give a visual reference example of a "match three" game aparently influenced by Bejeweled. - Logotu (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 16:45, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 12:00, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think the reason it is included in the aritcle is to give a visual reference example of a "match three" game aparently influenced by Bejeweled. - Logotu (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 16:45, 27 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.123.221.41 (talk) [reply]

History section restored

I have restored the History section of this article, which was deleted on 22 February 2008 by 64.8.161.251 without any explanation (looks like vandalism to me). If there was a good reason for the deletion, please discuss it here. Thanks. —Slowspace (talk) 23:18, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

History Section may want update

I'm unsure of whether the history should be of this particular game, or the series of games.

For example: Bejeweled (this page) is basically a flash version of Jewelbox_(video_game) which was a port to the Mac of XJewel, which was a port to Xwindows of Domain/Jewelbox on Apollo computers, which was written around 1990 by Yoshihiro Satoh. Ref: http://pwet.fr/man/linux/jeux/x/xjewel —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.61.135.243 (talk) 06:53, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

NEW Bejeweled Blitz

Hi. Last Tuesday, Facebook released the new version of Bejeweled Blitz with new features. The medals every 25k only go up to 250k, but it is now easier to score over 300k. Should we include this information in the article (some people have claimed to score as high as 22 million, but that's likely the result of cheating for most scores over 1 million)? Thanks. ~A H 1^(TCU) 02:40, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe just a sentence mentioning the game, but a comprehensive discussion of the game is inappropriate. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 01:09, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe someone should make a seperate article for Blitz, since it now has several features even Bejeweled 2 lacks. Digifiend (talk) 11:08, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Sequel"

Can anyone think of a more accurate, yet equally concise way of describing the other two Bejeweled games? The introductory paragraph refers to them as "sequels," yet this term specifically applies to games or movies that follow the original's story - something Bejeweled doesn't have. How about "Two other games in the franchise..."151.203.201.50 (talk) 02:54, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

iPod Touch / iPhone

I just deleted a section that was terribly written on the iPod Touch and iPhone version of the game. It read as following:

The Ipod Version

Mobile devices Ipod or Itouch played Bejeweled add-on. iPod Touch was a working title named iTouch.

I have no idea what that means. Please write a section on the iPhone/iPod touch if you can! Cliko (talk) 11:33, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 26 October 2022

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. More time is needed to determine if the game, despite long-term significance, is no longer the primary topic. (non-admin closure) Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 00:45, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bejeweled → Bejeweled (game) – move to make way for new disambiguation page 2A02:C7F:2CE3:4700:F189:ACFF:8CF2:9515 (talk) 18:55, 26 October 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Red Slash 17:32, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Bejeweled (video game). Even though the Taylor Swift single only dropped yesterday, I feel pretty confident that this is now a WP:NOPRIMARY situation. The title Bejeweled (game) as proposed in the original nom goes against the usual convention, though. 162 etc. (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Bejeweled (video game). In ictu oculi (talk) 17:14, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Bejeweled (video game) the song has 27,431 views, the series has 1,923 compared with only 4,476[[1]] for the video game. Even if the series is viewed as the same topic per WP:DABCONCEPT there is clearly no primary topic by usage. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:57, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support, as a violation of the policy that series are usually primary topic (or higher priority than original game). --Quiz shows 15:39, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose - I feel like I'm in the twilight zone? Like, a song drops and within a week, we have people supporting a move of one of the most influential video games ever to make room for what may be just an ephemeral pop song, with no logic given. Bejeweled popularized and codified the "match three"-type game, which has been played trillions of times by billions of people across dozens of platforms. This is not some no-nevermind game, this is a game with real long-lasting educational significance. Who cares about pageviews; this is the clear clear primary topic for educational significance. Red Slash 17:31, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment — To be fair, even if the game is still the primary topic (which I agree that it totally might be), one could argue there's no primary topic between the GAME and the GAME SERIES, perhaps. So, that's possibly an additional reason for the number of support votes. Paintspot Infez (talk) 18:12, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's certainly an important video game. However WP:DPT weighs both long-term significance and pageviews equally. I don't think it's worth confusing thousands of Tay Tay fans on a daily basis when we can just have a dabpage. 162 etc. (talk) 20:20, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Educational significance usually trumps pageviews, and it's usually not even close. Those "Tay Tay fans" will not be confused, any more than someone looking for Paris, Texas at Paris is confused when they suddenly see the Eiffel Tower. "Oh, right, 'Paris' is also the name of that much more significant city over in France." "Oh, right, 'Bejeweled' is also the name of the video game that spawned the match-three genre that has dominated mobile gaming for basically the entire lifetime of that platform." I mean, Apple Inc. gets probably 20x the pageviews of apple, but we're never switching them around. Obviously Bejeweled ain't apple, but the Taylor Swift song ain't Apple Inc. either. Red Slash 23:55, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, too soon IMO. Game is still PRIMARY by long-term significance.--Ortizesp (talk) 22:23, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for now per Red Slash. It's way too soon to judge whether the Swift song will remain competitive in significance or public memory over the long term. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 00:45, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as too soon. -- Netoholic @ 01:49, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Gameplay

I see that this article has been nominated for GA but the first paragraph of the Gameplay section is not sourced at all. Also, the read me file ref should be replaced with a non-primary reliable source (if such exists). Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 07:56, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Bejeweled (video game)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Lazman321 (talk · contribs) 21:39, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: ProtoDrake (talk · contribs) 19:17, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take this on. If I haven't gotten back with anything by Tuesday next, please ping me. --ProtoDrake (talk) 19:17, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Review

Been very busy IRL, so I've just got a couple of comment, which was reflected in a comment on the talk page.

The Gameplay section is partially unsourced, and doesn't use third-party sources. And also doesn't mention the game's "genre".

Done: Techinically, it was all sourced to one official web-manual, but I've added third-party sources. Unfortunately, two IGN reviews that I added do not have archived links. Lazman321 (talk) 19:43, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I know Wayback is having troubles, but maybe check through some of the unarchived sources to see whether any of them have pre-existing archived versions.

Done, though I wasn't able to archive one of the PocketGamer.biz articles Lazman321 (talk) 18:49, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lazman321 I think I'll put the article on hold. --ProtoDrake (talk) 07:06, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ProtoDrake: All addressed. Lazman321 (talk) 19:43, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some more comments.

Is there a source for the composer?

Yes; the game's credits, which can be found in the readme. However, considering he is referred to by a pseudonym, is not even mentioned in the article, and I can't find any secondary sources, I'm willing to remove him from the infobox. Lazman321 (talk) 05:41, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Astraware is a redlink.

Is there a problem with it? Lazman321 (talk) 05:41, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If there are reviews, can even a small reception section be created? I know the game's not got much to talk about in terms of gameplay, but is there anything?

Done, reception section created Lazman321 (talk) 16:56, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lazman321: --ProtoDrake (talk) 18:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ProtoDrake: Lazman321 (talk) 16:56, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lazman321: The red link isn't absolutely necessary, but in the GANs I've experienced, it seems to be not preferred unless there's a definite plan to create an article on it. But it's a small point, so I think the article now counts as a Pass. --ProtoDrake (talk) 08:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ProtoDrake: Thank you, but if you don't mind me asking, could you do some spot-checks on the article's sources. As per WP:GAN/I#R3, they are required. Lazman321 (talk) 17:32, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lazman321: I didn't see anything wrong there initially so didn't comment, especially considering the kind of article this is. Consistent formatting, and nothing leaping to the eye in other regards. I think Kotaku is passable in this instance if it's the only source since it's a real writer/writer I've seen for other outlets. --ProtoDrake (talk) 19:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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... that match-three video games such as Candy Crush Saga are often considered Bejeweled clones?

Source: [2]

ALT1: ... that Bejeweled was originally named Diamond Mine prior to its release on MSN Gaming Zone? Source: [3]
Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lily Golden

Improved to Good Article status by Lazman321 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

Lazman321 (talk) 22:03, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall:

Article is new enough, long enough. Hook facts are interesting - I knew the first, but younger readers may not remember when Bejeweled was everywhere. Earwig showed no issues with close paraphrasing. I do prefer ALT0, as it speaks to why it matters, but ALT1 also works. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:20, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Last chance before FAC

For next week starting tomorrow, I will be taking a wikibreak to study for college semester finals. After I come back, I will nominating this article for FA, so if anyone has any last pre-FAC recommendations, now is your last chance. Thank you to all who have helped improve it. Lazman321 (talk) 19:41, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]