Talk:Robin Hood

Kayamkulam Kochunni

Please add him in the 'See also' list. He is a similar folk hero from Kerala Aravindunlimited (talk) 14:30, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

 Done - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 14:37, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Crusades?

Is there any version of the narrative before Kevin Costner's film portrayal that makes RH a veteran of the Crusades? That's an interesting wrinkle for a post-vietnam audience, but the lede shouldn't suggest it was ever part of the traidtional story. 150.243.14.41 (talk) 15:04, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Older than you think. Robin Hood is depicted as a veteran of the Crusades in the television series The Adventures of Robin Hood (1955-1959). Here is the summary of the first episode: "Sir Robin of Locksley returns to England from fighting in the Crusades to discover that the notorious Sir Roger de Lille (Leo McKern) has been given his family's lands and castles, and has had Robin declared an outlaw. Robin takes refuge in Sherwood Forest and joins a band of outlaws led by Will Scatlock (Bruce Seton) who names him Robin of the hood." Dimadick (talk) 15:55, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

   Robin Hood and his Merry Men

Historical context: The story of Robin Hood is a legend. It is probably based on a real person who lived in England in the 12th century and around whom lots of imaginary stories have developed. The story of Robin Hood is set during the time when King Richard 1st was away fighting in the Middle East and his brother, Prince John, ruled England. At that time, England was governed by the king and a small group of wealthy lords who owned most of the land. Many people were very poor – they worked for the lords as farmers and had little freedom of their own. While Prince John ruled England, they were particularly badly treated and exploited. Robin Hood, who came from a wealthy family near the town of Nottingham, did not like what was happening. He spoke out against the unfairness of the tax system and became a champion of the poor. He became an enemy of the Sheriff of Nottingham (the man in charge of the area where Robin Hood lived). He hid in nearby Sherwood Forest to escape from the Sheriff. He robbed the rich and gave the money back to the poor. Many men joined him in his fight against injustice. The story: Robin’s father, Sir Robert of Locksley, was imprisoned by the Sheriff of Nottingham because he could not pay his taxes. Robin saw that this was happening everywhere. He wanted King Richard to return and rule the country again. Prince John and the Sheriff knew that Robin did not like what they were doing. The Sheriff sent his men to arrest Robin on the day of his wedding to Marian. Robin managed to escape with his friend, Will Scarlet. They went to live in Sherwood Forest. A lot of other men joined him and became his Merry Men. Will Scarlet captured a ‘boy’ walking through the forest and took ‘him’ to Robin Hood. The ‘boy’ turned out to be Marian, who had come to join the Merry Men. She told Robin that the Sheriff had allowed one of his men, Guy of Gisborn, to move into his old house, Locksley Hall, and that Guy wanted to marry her. Robin sent Will Scarlet and Much, the miller’s son, to see what they could discover. Will was captured. He was sent to Nottingham to be hanged the next day. Robin dressed up as the hangman and rescued Will. One day in the forest, Robin saw a little boat on the river. A fat friar, a holy man, rowed people in the boat across the river. The man, Friar Tuck, told Robin that he had had to leave the abbey where he lived because he had spoken out against the Sheriff. Robin invited him to join his Merry Men and be their cook. Friar Tuck married Robin to Marian. On another day, Robin discovered that the Sheriff’s men had robbed a friend of all his money. The Sheriff was taking it back to Nottingham. Robin set a trap for them, and took back the money the Sheriff had stolen. A few weeks later, Robin met a tall man on a narrow wooden bridge. There was only room for one man to pass. Robin asked the stranger to make way for him. The stranger refused, and they fought each other with long wooden sticks. The stranger, Little John, knocked Robin into the water. Robin invited him to join his Merry Men. He needed good, strong fighters like Little John. On another occasion, Robin heard that the Sheriff was holding a shooting competition. The winner’s prize was a silver arrow. With his hood pulled over his eyes so he would not be recognised, Robin won the competition. When the Sheriff presented him with his prize, he was most surprised to see who the winner was. Robin escaped before the Sheriff could capture him. Later, Robin dressed up as a butcher and went to the Sheriff’s house. He tricked the Sheriff into coming into Sherwood Forest, where he robbed him and sent him home without his money. However, things did not always go well for Robin and his men. One day, Will Scarlet and two other men were killed by the Sheriff’s men and Little John was captured. Robin fought and killed Guy of Gisborn, tricked the Sheriff and freed Little John. The Sheriff was just about to kill Robin when a knight dressed all in black rode up and told him to stop. The Sheriff put his sword away and left. When the Black Knight took off his helmet, Robin saw it was King Richard! As Guy of Gisborn was dead, the king gave Robin back Locksley Hall. One night, the Sheriff tried to climb up a rope into Robin’s house, but Robin heard him. He cut the rope. The Sheriff fell and was killed. Robin knew that the Sheriff’s men would come to punish him, so he sent Marian to stay with her sister. Robin rode off and joined a ship as a sailor. The ship was chased by pirates. Robin fired his arrows and killed many of the pirates. The ship’s captain gave Robin half of the pirate’s gold. Meanwhile, Marian’s greedy sister told Marian that Robin was dead so that she could share Robin’s money. Robin came to collect Marian, but Marian was out walking. Marian’s sister tried to poison Robin. Fortunately, Robin realised what she was trying to do. When Marian returned, she was amazed and overjoyed to see Robin. They left immediately and returned to the safety of Sherwood Forest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.69.6.222 (talk) 02:39, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

There is no mention in the earliest source material of Robin Hood being involved in any of the Crusades. Let alone the Third Crusade of King Richard, well before the ballad heroes time. The earliest ballad reference places Robin Hood in the reign of "King Edward" which early external references clarify as Edward I. This is covered in the article which for all its present limitations is worth reading. The assocation of Robin Hood with the Crusades is a modern idea, maybe inevitable once the link with Richard I had been made. Jeremy (talk) 11:17, 21 January 2019 (UTC) Although the Robin Hood legend probably has been influenced by the history of Roger Godberd (which is not the same as saying Robin Hood 'was' Roger Godberd). Godberd was pardoned by Edward I on Edward's return from the Crusades although not in circumstances resembling described in the Geste. Jeremy (talk) 00:51, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

• That said, it's important to note Edward I himself was a Crusader. Both he and his brother, Prince Edmund, had taken an active part in the 9th Crusade. Edward almost dying at the hands of an assassin. His long recovery from that attack caused a brief interregnum following Henry III's death in 1272, Edward was still overseas. It's possible Robin's association with the crusades stems from this. Another intriguing point, at this time the Sheriff of Nottingham was John I De Balliol, Baron of Barnard. This was the father of King John Balliol I of Scotland and it's possible the folklore association with "King John" stems, in a garbled manner, from this. 95.146.213.238 (talk) 20:15, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 November 2018

Robin Hood was born in the 16th century in Loxley, Sheffield but was known to live in the Sherwood forests in Nottingham.he was a talented outlaw and archer who stole from the rich and gave to the poor. he married maid Marian at st mary's church, Edwinstowe and had a group of me called his merry men. He was believed to die in West Yorkshire and his faithful comrade in arms, Little John promised to bury his body where it fell and to where he breathed his last breath. 86.174.180.35 (talk) 20:43, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DannyS712 (talk) 22:50, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

From the rich to the poor

This wiki article is a bit misleading in regard to the whole of the Robin Hood lore. Additionally it rests quite a bit upon WP:NOR instead of what many historians have written as to the origin of Robin Hood's relatively new policy of stealing from the rich to give to the poor.

Matt Phillpott, a professor of historical research[1] at the School of Advanced Study, University of London, writes a very simple question and answer:[2] "When did Robin Hood start giving to the poor?"

"One man in particular can be credited with drawing out this moral aspect to Robin’s tales. That man is Joseph Ritson (1752-1803)."

Stephanie Barczewski, professor of history at Clemson University also points to Ritson:[3]

"Not surprisingly, Ritson issued his collection of Robin Hood ballads with a polemical introduction which used the legend as a vessel for expressing his political ideas."

Barczewski explains specifically which political ideal being expressed was Ritson's:

"In response to the question of who gave Robin Hood a commission to rob from the rich and give to the poor, Ritson testily replied"

And then Barczewski quotes Ritson directly. Ritson knew full well that this ideology was new and believed he was within reason to introduce it. Finally, Professor Holt(quoted in the main body of the article) also points to Ritson: (Robin Hood, 1982, pp. 184, 185)

With Parker, Robin's Gifts to the poor illustrate Christian charity and penitence for crime rather than any deliberately conceived social policy..... Ritson was different. Politically, in different circumstances a century and a half later, he went the other way, and transformed Robin into a social rebel."

Holt explicitly states that "This was imposed on the legend". What Ritson wrote(which Barczewski quoted) is also important here. Ritson admitted:[4]

"That same power which authorises kings to take it where it can be worst spared, and give it where it is least wanted."

So Ritson's point that Robin Hood steals from wealthy lords and vassals is important, as the serf population in feudal times were generally in a perpetual state of poverty. This also goes back into why King John is the universal enemy along with his right hand man the Sheriff. These all have an important context per Ritson himself. The kings were redistributing wealth upward toward the king, but Ritson wanted wealth to be redistributed downward back to the serfs who were literally starving. But the important point is this:

That Robin Hood robs from the rich and gives to the poor is now a long-standing tradition in the lore. But since the historians are pointing to Joseph Ritson, then Wikipedia needs to also point to Joseph Ritson. Anything previous to Ritson was nothing more than kindness to the victims of the king. After Ritson, it's a calculated and politically charged social policy. Progressingamerica (talk) 15:04, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

oh45.19.165.218 (talk) 08:25, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

It certainly is a controversial issue as the article notes, but (some of)the sources for Robin Hood's attitude to the poor are given in the article. The earliest explicit reference to robbing the rich to give to the poor well precedes Ritson as a matter of fact, and his general patisanship of the poor is explicitly attested in the Gest. Of course the relative significance of the various motifs in the legend are up for discussion and Ritson certainly boosted that motif, as I think the artice notes adequately. But he also definitely didn't invent it. Jeremy (talk) 01:19, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Still no mention of Robin Hood's Marksmanship

I was reading the article, at notice that there is no mention of Robin Hood's marksmanship, except in the intro: "According to legend, he was a highly skilled archer..." Looking through the archives, this issue has been brought up some time ago, but is yet unresolved.

Which legend is that? The modern intrepretation of Robin Hood has this as his foremost feature, yet nothing in the article support this claim. We should have a source for that claim. Nwinther (talk) 09:55, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Robin Hood's marksmanship is explicitly mentioned in Robin Hood and Guy of Gisborne and in the Gest (where he is nearly captured because he wins the archery contest the Sheriff set as a trap for him). His sensitivity about his marksmanship is an important plot point of Robin Hood and the Monk where he quarrels with Little John after John defeats him in an archery competition. The article does mention that his outstanding skill as an archer already appears in the early ballads but maybe should be more stressed. Jeremy (talk) 01:01, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Native American chief Robin Hood in early colonial New England (Removed from article, wrong place)

(This section I've removed and placed here because although very interesting it doesn't seem to belong on the Robin Hood page, and if it did it wouldn't be under the Historicity title)

Chief Rawandagon, headman and shaman of an Abenaki Indian tribe on the lower Androscoggin and Kennebec rivers in seacoast Maine was a notorious figure in early colonial New England. What reminds us of him, wrote anthropologist Harald E. L. Prins, "are some place names in the lower Kennebec River area. For instance, there is a Georgetown Island village called Robinhood, located at the entrance of Robinhood Cove. Merrymeeting Bay, situated nearby, is another symbolic reference. [This] bay was once known by its Abenaki name, chisapeak"—"at the big part of the river." Here, Rawandagon alias Robin Hood and his Abenaki cohorts ("merry men") held their periodic (festive) gatherings, which in seventeenth-century English were known as "merry meetings."

"By the 1660s, English colonial authorities officially acknowledged his political position, appointing him "chief sachem" of the district from Casco Bay to Pemaquid. As such, he assumed responsibility for the actions of his native compatriots in the region, and mediated in negotiations and conflicts between them and the English. His final public act took place in 1675, when he mediated in a smoldering conflict between his cohorts and the settlers.

"In English eyes, the Abenaki tribesmen were funny-looking, funny-talking "wild men"—reminiscent of the fools, mummers, or strollers of the May fair. Words used by an English observer to describe New England's natives in the 1630s are revealing: "Bare Skinned Morris Dancers, who presented their Antiques before [a captive]... When they had sported enough about this walking Maypole, a rough hewne Satyre cutteth a gobbit of flesh from his brawnie arme, eating it in his view, searing it with a firebrand..."

Given this mindset, it is easy to imagine how Rawandagon, as an Indian headman, came to be identified with the fair's Lord of Misrule—Robin Hood. Not surprisingly, the English also associated the name Robin Hood with deception by trickery, as in the saying: "When...a Purchase you reap, that is wondrous cheap, they Robin-Hood bargains are call'd." Indeed, viewing Rawandagon and his cohorts as credulous fools, the English duped them into signing documents which served as proof that the Indians no longer owned parts of their traditional territories. Typically, they were paid a mere pittance for their land. Consider Rawandagon's first deed, a 1639 contract first identifying him as Robin Hood. In exchange for a considerable piece of land located on the east bank of the lower Kennebec (at Nequaseg, now Woolwich), which had "one wigwam, or Indian house" on it, he received the sum total of "one hogshead of corn and thirty sound pumpkins"

References

When did Robin Hood start targeting tax collectors / returning taxes to the people?

I've seen claims that this began with the Disney film (and furthermore that this represents an right-wing appropriation of the legend). Is there any validity in this claim? The article doesn't say when taxation and tax collectors became part of the story, just that it wasn't in the earliest versions. Iapetus (talk) 15:54, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

The main antagonist was the Sheriff of Nottingham who was tasked with collecting taxes and seizing land of lords who did not pay. In fact Robin Hood, did not merely steal from "the rich" as Robin Hood was a landowning lord himself. He stole from the King and his cronies.Over time, if anything the "appropriation" you described came from the left-wing and distilled it down to merely rich v poor which has unfortunately watered down the Robin Hood story into a oversimplified marxist lens. Synthfreq (talk) 05:41, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Well historically King John taxed both rich and poor heavily. In 1206, he taxed 13% of every man's income (https://magnacarta.cmp.uea.ac.uk/about/historical_intro). — Preceding unsigned comment added by AverroesII (talk • contribs) 12:10, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

LISTS

I am frustrated at the lack of Robin Hood lists...

How many ballads, how many novels and short stories, how many serials, how many plays, how many comic book features? I see that there is an article about films, but how about the rest?

I am aware that it's hard to make definitive lists, Robin Hood is such an incommensurate topic, but still...T-man (talk) 22:57, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 September 2019

The "Portrayed by" list is missing Jason Connery, who played Robin Hood in "Robin Of Sherwood" after Michael Praed left the show. 47.6.244.127 (talk) 13:56, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

 Done NiciVampireHeart 18:13, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

May have found a "proto-Robin Hood" in a Wikipedia biography - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_de_Thweng

Robert de Thweng (c. 1205 – c. 1268) was a noble who rebelled against the church authorities in Yorkshire, England.[3]

Life Robert de Thweng gained ownership of the Castle of Kilton through his marriage to Matilda, niece of Sir William de Kylton and widow of Richard de Autrey, in 1222.[4][5] He thus inherited a dispute with the Prior of Gisborough, concerning the advowson of the parish priest at Kirkleatham, particularly that the Prior had tried to gain control of the parish whilst Sir William was infirm.

Bold textWhen Robert had exhausted all the ecclesiastical routes of appeal, he turned to rebellion (around Easter 1232), and raided church properties, especially those belonging to foreign churchmen, under the sobriquet Will Wither (literally ‘William the Angry’), and he distributed the spoils to the poor.[5] He was excommunicated by the Papal Legate in England, Cardinal Otto.[4]Bold text

He was given support by the great northern Magnate families: Percy, Neville, Fitz-Randolph, de Vesci, de Maulay, de Menyll, de Roos and de Brus.[4]

He presented his case to Henry III of England[3] who, rather than punish him, gave him letters of recommendation to take to Pope Gregory IX.[4] The Pope ruled in his favour, bringing the rebellion of Will Wither to an end. Biographies suggest that the influence of Richard of Cornwall may have been decisive in this case.[5]

In 1240 Robert set out with Richard on Crusade, but he probably never reached The Holy Land, as he was despatched as an envoy to Frederick II.[5] In 1244 he was charged with assaulting the Archbishop of York, Walter de Gray, and his lands were seized, but later returned to him.[5]

His later life is unclear. He may have been alive during the Second Barons' War, and one biography suggests he took Henry's side,[3] although there is evidence he may have been dead by 1257, when his son Marmaduke was apparently in control of the major Thweng estates.[5] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:C9:280:CEA0:F572:B4AE:DF6B:E45D (talk) 16:31, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

What makes him a proto-Robin Hood?--Jack Upland (talk) 19:48, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

similar characters

there are several characters that robbed the rich and gave to the poor and this seems missing as a category in wikipedia - so there is a lot of these in the see also section. they need removing. AND to them might be added Ishikawa Goemon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.112.30.115 (talk) 01:39, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 May 2021

File:Robin-hood-and-maid-marion-03.png

Robin Hood circa. 1190

45.42.12.96 (talk) 06:48, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — IVORK _Talk 07:02, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Ballad order

I made up the recent Forresters Manuscript wikipedia article and tried to incorporate it into the main Robin Hood article where appropriate. It wasn't until I divided the list of ballads that appear in Forresters that I noticed the opening paragraph saying the ballads will be listed in rough order of the earliest known appearances. To honor that spirit, I tried looking up on line, using the Bodleian Library's ballad website and versions of Child's Ballads available on archive.org. I didn't touch the ballads listed under Early Ballads or Ballads Appearing in the Percy Folio. For the rest, I'll try to explain here why I ordered them the way I did.

Forresters

1-5. Robin Hood and the Tinker, Robin Hood and the Beggar I, Robin Hood's Progress to Nottingham, Robin Hood Rescuing Will Stutly, and Robin Hood and the Bishop. These 5 ballads were all published by F. Grove, who was active from 1623 to 1661. With nothing else to go on, I listed them in the order in which they're listed in the Child Ballads.

6. Robin Hood's Chase. The earliest broadsheet of this ballad doesn't list a publisher. It does say it's to be sung to the tune Robin Hood and the Beggar, so presumably this ballad was published no earlier than after the first Robin Hood and the Beggar ballad had been released.

7. The Noble Fisherman was published by F. Coles and was actually registered in the Stationers' Registry in the year 1631.

8. Robin Hood and the Tanner was published by W. Gilbertson who was active from 1640 to 1665.

9. Robin Hood and the Shepherd was published by J. Andrews, who apparent was active only c. 1655.

10. Robin Hood's Delight was also published by J. Andrews, and says it's to be sung to the tune Robin Hood and the Shepherd.

11. Robin Hood's Golden Prize was published by F. Grove and was registered in the Stationers' Registry in 1656.

12. Robin Hood Newly Revived was published by R. Burton who was active from 1641 to 1674, but there's a reason to date it more precisely than that. Apparently, the earliest version of this ballad is on a rare broadside that has two ballads, one on each side. One side has Robin Hood Newly Revived, the other has a ballad commemorating the Coronation of Charles II that occurred on April 23, 1661. This ballad even lists the date. So apparently, the earliest Newly Revived can be dated is 1661.

13-16. Robin Hood and Allan-a-Dale, Robin Hood and the Bishop of Hereford, Robin Hood and the Golden Arrow, and The King's Disguise, and Friendship with Robin Hood. Apparently, the earliest versions of these 4 ballads is in the Forresters Manuscript. So I listed them in the order in which they appear in Forresters.

Other Ballads

1. A True Tale of Robin Hood was registered in the Stationers' Registry in 1632.

2. Robin Hood and the Scotchman was first published as the second part of Robin Hood Newly Revived.

3. The only copy of Robin Hood and Maid Marian doesn't list a publisher, but it does say that it's to be sung to the tune Robin Hood Revived.

4-6. Robin Hood and Little John, Robin Hood and the Prince of Aragon, and Robin Hood's Birth, Breeding, Valor, and Marriage. These 3 ballads were all published by W. Onley who was active from 1689 to 1709. I've listed them in the order which they're listed in the Child Ballads.

7, 8. Robin Hood and the Ranger, Robin Hood and the Valiant Knight were both first published in an undated Robin Hood garland, but in one copy, someone wrote their name and the date 1741 inside it. I've listed them in the order they're listed in Child Ballads.

9. The Bold Pedlar and Robin Hood was first published in a garland dated 1775.

10. Robin Hood and the Beggar II. Apparently it was first published in broadsides made in Newcastle, but no one can find a copy earlier than the 18th century. The earliest definite date for it is when it was published in Ritson's Robin Hood book in 1795.

11. Robin Hood and the Pedlars. The earliest copies can only be traced to the 19th century.

K9feline2 (talk) 05:43, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Folklore/Mythology or not

Why does the article start by stating Robin Hood is folklore, but then there is a section saying that he isn't? Is there a distinction I'm missing? Frohike14 (talk) 06:33, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

I don't think the article contradicts itself.

It correctly describes the Robin Hood tales and ballads as legends and folklore.

Then it describes the many debates over the years about whether or not there was a historical robin hood that started the original stories.

This isn't a contradiction. Partially because the debates went nowhere, there's still no evidence of how the stories started. And partially because even if the stories did start as a tall tale about a real life bandit, they're folklore now, because the real-life bandit, if he ever existed, is long forgotten and the stories have taken on a life of their own.

Other articles, like King Arthur or Paul Bunyan are written in a similar style. ApLundell (talk) 18:25, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

"Historicity" section

(compare Dutch hout, pronounced /hʌut/, also meaning "wood") – nope, hout is cognate with holt, not with wood. If someone pronounced wood as ood and hypercorrectly added an aitch where it never was, that would've given hood, but it doesn't need to have anything to do with holt. 195.187.108.4 (talk) 19:13, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Add to 'Portrayed by' section.

Request to add Patrick Stewart to the 'Portrayed by' tab. Patrick Stewart portrayed Robin Hood in Star Trek The Next Generation, Season 4, Episode 20 "Qpid", in a loose recreation of Robin Hood's rescue of the Maid Marian at Nottingham Castle. Natemiester (talk) 22:30, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Statue of Robin Hood into Robin Hood

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There seems no point having a one-sentence stub article on this when it could easily be incorporated into the main Robin Hood article. CarrotPieFI (talk) 18:40, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

What about expanding the stub? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:44, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

I'm sure there's enough material to write a respectable article about the statue. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:31, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

• Merge Not really all that notable to have it's own article. --Ollieisanerd (talk) 17:15, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
• Keep. The group of sculptures of which it is a part, the Statues of Robin Hood and his Merry Men, is listed at Grade II and the listing text is quite in-depth. Add to that the substantial coverage in this Nottingham Post article and the topic satisfies WP:GNG. Ham II (talk) 19:19, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
• Keep and expand if possible but, per above, it's fine as a stand alone well-sourced page. Please be more careful in choosing to delete pages, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:14, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
• Keep and let's try to expand it.--Randeer (talk) 06:49, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
• Keep it seems to have enough sources etc to merit a separate article and the listing lists other sources. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:13, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
• Keep - I wanted to vote! Merge, however the Keep's make a good argument and I agree. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:22, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

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Transparent Robin Hood image

The image currently used in the infobox is a transparent PNG image. This renders fine in most browsers, but if page is converted to a PDF or viewed in some graphics editors, it renders entirely in black (as if black background). I proposed to replace this transparent PNG with a black and white (non-transparent) image here:

• Transparent PNGs do not render in various image viewers

The response I received suggested that I could not replace with a JPG image, but could create a non-transparent derivative PNG image. (Out of curiosity, is there a probibition on JPG images in Wikimedia?)

I also messaged the creator of the image who explained why he made the image transparent here:

• Robin Hood image

I hesitate to unilaterally replace the image against the wishes of the creator of the image and so I ask for a consensus on how to proceed.
Enquire (talk) 22:01, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

1) I believe on Wikimedia you can't literally replace PNG with a JPG because they'd have different filenames.

2) JPGs should never be used for line-art anyway. The JPEG compression algorithm is optimized for photographs and will likely make lineart look fuzzy.

3) I agree that the image should not be transparent. Partially because Wikipedia does have a "dark-mode" (even if they broke it with the new skin), but mostly because there's no reason for this image to be transparent. It seems like it must have been a mistake.

I say go ahead and make the change to a PNG with no alpha channel. ApLundell (talk) 22:30, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

What is an alpha channel (no alpha channel)? Enquire (talk) 19:22, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Location - Sherwood Forest - Newstead Abbey

Please can the location of Newstead Abbey be added as a link i.e. Newstead Abbey as there is a separate page for Newstead Abbey. The former home of Lord Byron. 46.18.177.137 (talk) 22:46, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Also please can it be considered for the photo of the major oak be changed to Major Oak (9494).jpg this photo is by far clearer and a more recent photo of the tree?

Again this is: Major Oak (9494).jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.18.177.137 (talk) 22:52, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 June 2023

The link to Alexandre Dumas under the section “The Merry Adventures of Robin Hood” incorrectly redirects to Alexandre Dumas fils instead of Alexandre Dumas père. 128.194.2.71 (talk) 18:39, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Not done for now - How can it be Alexandre Dumas if he died in 1870 and Le Prince des Voleurs dates from 1872? Tim O'Doherty (talk) 18:54, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

It was published posthumously. Professor Penguino (talk) 21:51, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

ROBIN HOOD

I think this should be added - the first known reference to Robin Hood and his men was in 1377, in the Sloane manuscripts in the British Museum they have an account of Robin’s life which states that he was born around 1160 in Lockersley ( modern day Loxley) in Sheffield South Yorkshire 80.195.24.162 (talk) 18:39, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

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References

I can't follow the references. e.g. no.5 "Blackwood 2018, p.59". What is Blackwood? I couldn't figure it out. To help an ignorant reader like me I think the references should be more complete. Posting anon. because I'm not really expecting anyone to care. 74.102.253.104 (talk) 14:46, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

If you look in the Bibliography section it's the third in the list. Switching to sfn might help. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 14:50, 20 June 2024 (UTC)