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What Is "codex wire"?

The mentioning of this explosive seems to be restricted to indian newspapers reporting about naxalites. With refeneces to be found only when looking in the right place As such it seems to fail the google text of general findability. Is there possibly a more commonly used name for the explosive or is it something a bored journalist invented. Any Ideas? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.91.161.116 (talk) 08:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

The probably meant to say "Cordtex". - Snori (talk) 20:17, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Naxalite is a terrorist group

Who ever is editing should look at the recent news coming out of Naxalites infested regions. Stop the support of terrorism. Killing innocent people for some believes is plain terrorism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Punjabinet (talk • contribs) 22:19, 20 October 2009 (UTC) "Naxalite is a terrorist group" i do not agree with this statement,actually naxalism is a movement led by the peoples of tribal area.they started their movement for protecting their land , their "RIGHTS", and their "FREEDOM" , because in that area they saw the worst image of government and police rule...... they have no other option rather then movement.But now NAXALITES leaders LEAD them to wrong way. lets take alook why that movement sarted... If the are going to complaint officials,officials do not hear them because they are tribals, minorities , and uneducated and poor once. they are illiterates because government leaders in that area not interested to invest funds provided by government of India, actually they used that funds to fill their bank accounts and luxuries... Peoples of that area treated as animals by police officials. as they do not have right to live. "NAXALISM" is now major frighten on india democracy because now they totally against it...who is responsible for that? ans. is our bullshit politcians ,MLA ,MP of that tribal area and political leaders who led them to choose wrong way because they are illiterate, mostly of them do not know and distinguish between right and wrong.

Now this is the problem of "NAXALITES" But many other country also facing such problem because of narrow minded politicians... If another movement starts then it may demolish our strong democracy....So i request to think all INDIANS toward it.... Our counter is going on wrong way..... EDITED BY KAPINDRA YADAV, JHANSI

First of all, there is no such group called Naxalite. Naxalite is the adjective.
--Thanks for the information. On the Wikipedia site article and in other references Naxalite is a group and can be categorized under collective noun.

Secondly, CPI maoists and naxals are not same. There's CPIM liberation, who are also naxals, but not they are not the ones covered in the newslinks you provided.
--Another technicality. They all come under the collective noun "Naxalite" and the articles is clear about that.

So please do not add rhetorics without knowing the history.
--Rhetorics, history? Along with history it is important to know about the present too. If you don't like the present then please feel free to cling to the history but don't force it on others.

Articles on Wikipedia are neither for support nor for oppose and certainly not for moral posturing.
--You like the article when it talks about all glory and history and if someone adds another perspective you call that opposing.

--Let the article say that, you seem to be happy at the idea of calling them the 'Heros'. Anyway this argument is stupid. If a group of terrorist are blowing up 14 school going kids then you are saying that for some those terrorist are heroes? Ask the parents and they will tell you who the hero is, well for that matter ask anyone or yourself. Is this scenario too extreme? yes it is, the point is that terrorist/hero is a stupid argument to begin with.

So if you keep adding newslinks about killing of cops, someone else can keep adding newslinks about developmental work done by the same group. That's google's job. Not Wikipedia's. If you can write Naxalite is a terrorist group, then it is doubtful how much NPOV can you contribute.
--you can add section for the development work they are doing when they are not killing women and children. BTW: what is Google's job? google is a search engine. You think you are contribution is ok as long as you are portraying them as saint.

Vinter-light (talk) 02:29, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Actually, Naxalites are not "A" group. There are multiple groups, which come under the banner of Naxalites. Some of them are classified as "terrorists" by the Govt. of India while others aren't. So, you can't term the Naxalites as a terrorist group, but surely can mention that the most prominent among them, the CPI (Maoist) is designated as a terrorist group by the GoI. And, of course, with proper citation. Thanks. Shovon (talk) 15:46, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

PLEASE TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE TOPIC FIRST BEFORE TERMING THE NAXALITES AS TERRORISTS. NAXALITES ARE PEOPLE WHO TURNED AGAINST GOVERNMENT TO PROTECT THEIR OWN LANDS AND PEOPLE FROM EXPLOITATION. THEY DID NOT GET ANY BENEFITS FROM GOVERNMENT RULE. SO IT IS ONLY NATURAL THAT THEY ARE AGAINST GOVERNMENT. KEEP IN MIND THAT IT IS "PEOPLES' MOVEMENT". Note that nearly all naxals are tribals. Tribals are the most affected groups due to improper mass relocations. it is either "fight or die" because once they lose their lands, they lose everything.

REPORTS OF KILLINGS ARE ALWAYS BIASED. How can they not strike schools when schools are nothing but hexagonal fortifications meant for use of police only.(schools are not functional---read "Walking with the comrades" by arundhati roy)

THIS IS MORE APPROPRIATELY TERMED "INSURGENCY" RATHER THAN TERRORISM. There was an editorial in 'the hindu' stating precisely this(i don't have the link) --B. Srinivasa Sasidhar 11:00, 16 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bssasidhar (talk • contribs)

what is happening at present is more important then some lame history... and what is happening now is that naxals are killing innocent people.. and that is all that one has to know, taht is all that matters... So yes naxals are a Terrorist Group and the Govt should do every thing in there power to crush Naxalite.Heroes450 (talk) 08:11, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, according to you (Heroes450) your argument is "naxals are killing innocent people". But you dont hear the news of innocents being framed and killed by the police. Its a dirty war thats going on. both sides are being equally cruel. It is the Innocent tribal thats being killed. Govt cant give one single valid reason why they should leave their naxal leaders. People there hav very strong reasons to believe in the path they have chosen. I am no fan of NAXALISM. ITS A GENOCIDE GOING ON THERE. IT NEEDS POLITICAL SOLUTION. GOVT CANT GIVE LAME TERMS LIKE "drop ur guns and come to meetings" because If they didn't have guns, why would government listen to them in first place. Its hopeless, Nothing can be done to make the lame bureaucracy and politicians wake up. --B. Srinivasa Sasidhar 10:28, 25 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bssasidhar (talk • contribs)

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Naxalite has more lethal combat capability than any other terrorist organisation of the world.At one place in book Naxalite Movement-a biggest challenge to internal security by Uday kumar,It was revealed that Naxal collect 2000 crore annually to fund their terror activities through Narco-route.

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ok .. they have guns and they are dangerous. Those are the guns stolen frm police and sum handmade ones along with crude IEDs. What else do you expect from an armed movement?swords and knives? . They are fighting the indian police force If they din have that much, then the whole tribal areas would have been wiped out. Even they dont like the path they have chosen. They r not havin fun eating the bullets of police and dying there. Promise them a better life and they will drop their guns. They are NOT terrorists--B. Srinivasa Sasidhar 20:52, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Grossly non-NPOV

Grotesque. The most obvious purpose of this article as it currently exists is to give Wikipedia a bad name and ultimately to destroy it. This article right now is obscurantist trash written by furies in the throes of right-wing political warfare. If you want your perspective to inform this Wikipedia, then you'd better figure out how to work productively with Naxalites, socialists, journalists, scholars, and others, or else return to your proper theatre of conflict. Wikipedia is about supplying what information can be supplied given that there are almost always political disagreements about most things in the world. We all share venues such as Wikipedia not for hegemonic victory, but primarily for sharing information. This assumes that you write and edit not on behalf of a chosen community and to control outsiders, but rather within a large sphere of moral consideration that simultaneously includes all potential Wikipedia contributors and readers. The Wikipedia idea is an extension of democracy. There are other, more appropriate outlets on the internet for apoplectic, partisan, righteous rants and brutish sniping. Conservapedia, for example. Also, you can write blogs, some of which can earn you money, and I'm talking to you, armchair right-wing word-warriors. This Wiki article needs an editor whose primary commitment in this venue is to information useful to people across political interests, classes, and nationalities. Even when there is no compromise on an issue because interested contributors are literally at war, the Wiki entry can be split into labeled perspectives' accounts. Blanche Poubelle (talk) 18:03, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

I absolutely agree with Blanche on the gross violation of NPOV in this article and several others that Mehrrunnissa has been reverting back to the version that she prefers. There has been one alleged instance of villagers claiming a maoist to engage in cannibal act. Let that be in the article. Does that make maoists cannibals? Let readers decide that, not an editor, who keeps pushing his/her own agenda. If today a rapist is found to belong to let's say hinduism, does that mean hindus are rapists? - Hope nobody would be offended by this statement, I am trying to make a point to show how illogical this sounds. Please stop the other manipulations also. The supposed unfaireness was directed towards an editor, not on wikipedia in general.

Vinter-light (talk) 05:48, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

When naxalities and their online supporters start respecting basic human life and stop killing people and eating their flesh maybe then they can complain to wikipedia about supposed unfairness of the wikipage.

A cannibal act to strike terror

Bhubaneswar: In a bid to terrorise villagers last August, a Maoist killed a man suspecting him to be a police informer and ate his flesh in full view of the public in Malkangiri district of Orissa.

Superintendent of Police Satish Kumar Gajbhiye said the incident, which took place at Bandiguda, on August 14, 2007, came to light only on Sunday, during a community policing programme.

“The villagers told me that Bhagat, commander of the Paplur Dalam, killed Mukunda Madhi in public view and ate his flesh to terrorise others,” he told PTI on the phone.

Mukunda’s hapless family was among the onlookers, none of whom opened his mouth for fear of his life, Mr. Gajbhiye said. — PTI [1]

Your actions make your image, to most people naxalites are one of the most violent terror group active in the world today. --Mehrrunissa (talk) 04:24, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I removed a portion of text, since that text almost exclusively deals with the groups that merged into Communist Party of India (Maoist), and not the naxalite movement as a whole.

'Naxalites' in the broad sense of the word, are active in practically all states in India, except some minor states in North-East. The number nine referes to the military activity of erstwhile PWG.

Also, there was a quote to which no source was given.

As per the contacts with Peru, it is confirmed that groups such as MCC had contacts (they themselves claim that with pride). --Soman 10:19, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC) the article is too thin. I failed to understand the stand of naxals. and How killing innocent will help in the cause ? ....sushilpawar

Naxalism is the ideology while naxalite is an adjective for parties or individuals professing that ideology. Won't it be better to title this article 'Naxalism' and have 'Naxalite' perhaps redirect to 'Naxalism'. Jyotirmoyb 11:19, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

The current state of the article is grossly NPOV against the Naxal movement. Could we have some neutrality, and moreover a learned authority here?

I'll agree, this is a total farce. "since the mainstream Communist ideology had proved itself to be hypocritical and farcical in practice, as they stand to this day" for instance. Bias, anyone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.205.24.53 (talk) 00:34, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

People who support Naxalism are to my mind no better then the naxalits.... It is because of such people why naxalism still lives on... thousands of people (Kids, Women,Men) have died and are still dieing because of Naxals.. without a doubt nexalism is more Disgusting then any other terrorist group in the world, as naxlism has taken more lives then any other terrorist group has in the world.. and i say this again- people who support naxalism are no better then naxalits themselves.

heroes450 —Preceding undated comment added 04:43, 24 July 2010 (UTC). Heroes450 (talk) 08:06, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

im not sure if you guys get it, this place is for neither side to put in their retarded opinions, and that article i sadly full of them, get the wording right or remove it, this is not an article worthy of an encyclopedia but a fany FOX news report--178.25.205.198 (talk) 22:57, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Recent edit

The recent edits are grossly pov, and have an unencyclopediatic tone. Moreover the are factual fallacies at some points. Some examples:

• "Naxalite or Naxalism is an informal name given to violent communist groups". Not true. Today several of the Naxal factions have abandonned violence, but the term naxal stick with them.
• Try find a reliable source for the statement "in order to turn India into a totalitarian, communist regime."
• "Since their inception up until the death of the movement in Bengal, Naxals unleashed a reign of terror in Bengal, complete with killings of many thousands of innocent people, ordinary police constables, workers of other political parties and anybody they thought their 'class enemy' (which was virtually everyone except themselves)." is also highly problematic. Whilst I don't oppose expanding the article and include more detail on the development of the Naxal movement in Bengal, this is hardly npov.
• "Many groups combine both legal and illegal methods of work." is absent in this version, for reasons unknown to me.
• "Naxal ideology owes its origins to the abject penury and stems from the all pervasive poverty in the Indian hinterland.

- - The past few years has seen the insurgents spreading Naxal influence from 76 districts in nine states to 118 Districts in 12 States. The Communist Party of India (Maoists) was formed on September 21, 2004 through the merger of two prominent naxalite outfits - the People's War Group (PWG) and the Maoists Communists Center (MCC). - - The insurgency is fueled by the exploitation of the peasants and poor tribals by the landlords and the timber mafia, as well as neglect and corruption by governmental offices. The lack of socio-economic developments that have occurred in these regions from any governmental force is an issue that the Naxalites frequently exploit in their calls for violent, Mao inspired, revolution. Critics claim that it is in the Naxals' interest for these people to remain poor and exploited, because otherwise the Naxals would lose their static support base." is problematic, partly as the numbers relate only to sections of the Naxal movement and because the casual explanations are thin. One could say that rural poverty, etc., contribute to the buildup of the Naxal movement, but what actually is the driving cause should not be left to speculation.

• "It is quite common for various Naxal organisations to have 'sleepers' within the establishment in the guise of teachers, poets and leftist intellectuals. One of the objectives of these sleepers is to infiltrate the Indian media (print, electronic and web-based) and turn their opinion from within. Just like their more docile leftist/socialist counterparts, many such sleepers also infiltrate educational and academic instritutions." = McCarthyism
• "Roy's heavy-handed policing was the main reason the Naxal movement could be finished off so quickly." Again problems with causality. The Naxal movement also had many internal problems at the same time, what was the cause for its decay should not be up to speculation.
• "The ferocity of the police response prompted many Naxals to flee the battlefield. Apparently they were not quite ready for the revolution after all" is again completly unbased. Over 40 000 youths were imprisoned accused of being Naxals, thousands were killed. Still the core of the movement continued. The editors at wikipedia should not pass judgements on who is a real revolutionary and who isn't, especially not without facing those challenges themselves.
• "A number of them (the so called 'bright ones') fled India altogether and opted for a safe life in, ironically, Western Europe and the USA. There are no documented cases of Naxals migrating to communist countries." Why is this ironical. Would they have been allowed to migrate to the USSR? (considering their anti-USSR positions)
• "Siddhartha Roy later successfully repeated the same principles to demolish the terrorism in Punjab, with great contribution from K.P.S. Gill, the then Punjab police chief." is not an encyclopediatic sentence

--Soman 14:35, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

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You are a commie Soman. I won't talk with you about NPOV. Do you even know the meaning of the word 'neutral'? If you did, you wouldn't try to whitewash the sins of your murderous friends. But then again, that's your job, to spread propaganda, lies on one hand and kill and pillage on the other. That's what your commie religion and your foreign prophets have brainwashed you to do.

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Interesting... The above poster put up a threat of violence towards one of the contributers of wikipedia. This should be reported to the admins of wikipedia. Also I agree with Soman that this current article is not of NPOV. I learned very little about this group because of the lack of reliable sources and the because of the tone. Paracite 19:35, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

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Here we go again, here's another commie. Get a life. There are more productive things to do in life than killing other people in the name of barbaric commie religion.

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All right, all fanatics, both far left and anti-left, tone it down please. It is obvious that this article is being ruined by fanatics from both sides of the argument. Please stay away from this article if you are trying to whitewash Naxalite terrorism, and please stay away from this article if you want to "kill commies" or whatever.Only moderate and well-researched edits should be there. The fact is that the Naxals are widely regarded as terrorists and their ideology is violent and oppressive. The fact also is that this is not the place to use that to spread anti-communist rhetoric. Can all parties just cool down here? Rumpelstiltskin223 18:13, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

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Well done Rumpel. Nice edits. Although you have left out some of my juiciest comments, I am happy with what you have done. You must realise though that if these commies try to infiltrate again, I will have to come back and do my job.

Avoid individual attacks on this talk page (Ironic, isn't it). Please do not make unsigned comments. Rumpelstiltskin has a point. If you do carry a strong point of view regarding the subject try to hold yourself back from changing the tone of the article, which currently is fairly npov. --Keynes.john.maynard 19:13, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

recent edit

the lankan site presents a 2nd-hand-quote. Moreover, these types of accusations are part of the psychological warfare in the subcontinent (...just like RAW is blamed for virtually anything in Pak/BD), and academia would be preferable to newspieces. As per Andhra, a separate chapter should be set up (likewise for Bihar, etc.). --Soman 11:23, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

WP:Verifiability is paramount here. Rumpelstiltskin223 11:47, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Exactly my point. --Soman 12:19, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

No, your point is Original research ("psychological warfare??? That's getting a bit desperate comrade"). Rumpelstiltskin223 13:42, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

So everythung said about India in Pak/BD press should be utilized without filter at wiki? Or should different standards apply for different sources? --Soman 13:30, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but with reservation. Let me explain here. India is a democracy. It has what communists fear the most, a free press, completely outside the control of the government. If you read Frontline, you will see nothing but attack after attack on the government, for instance. Pakistan is NOT a democracy. It alternated between Islamic Fundamentalist controlled theocracies and military dictatorships. It's press, by and large, is NOT free of government control. Nevertheless, some Pakistani sources like DAWN and Pakistan Tribune are good for wikipedia because they are relatively independent of their government right now. I saw an article sa couple of days back citing a Paktrib article alleging that RAW was secretly aiding Balochi rebels (hee) so that part IS "utilized w/out filter" as you said. Rumpelstiltskin223 13:55, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Look, some sorts of differentations needs to be made here. I'm not disqualifying usage of newsmedia as sources in general. However, accuracy factors needs to be taken into account. A general comment like 'there's a foreign hand in Assam insurgency' or 'ISI supports the Naxalites' from newsmedia is problematic along WP:V. In this case its not even a quote from RAW, its a citation of another publication which is supposed to have published that comment. Have any ISI agent actually been captured in India, supporting the Naxals? Are there any independent confirmations of these allegations? On subjects like this, it would be highly preferable to use academic sources. --Soman 14:08, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

verified, see [2],[3],clickety click-click. Rumpelstiltskin223 14:49, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

You have to be joking if you want to use LaRouche as a source. Regarding The Hindu, it deals with LTTE, not ISI. I would not discard the theory that there is some cooperation (at least historically) with LTTE (note for example that positions on LTTE was a cause for split amongst Maoists in Nepal in mid-1980s), but would be far more cautious about comments on ISI involvement. --Soman 15:04, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, you may have a point abt LaRouche. The Hindu is legit enough, thaa. As for ISI, does an allegation by BJP president count as Verifiable?[4]. We can state it as an allegation (since, admittedly, BJP is partisan here), like BJP president alleges that... and keep the edit on the grounds of notability. Rumpelstiltskin223 15:15, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

It could be mentioned, but not in intro. --Soman 15:29, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

No, not in intro. I'll make the changes now.Rumpelstiltskin223 15:33, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Something like 'International links'. I could add info om CCOMPOSA and impact in Nepal/Bangladesh. --Soman 15:35, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Delimitation of the article

There is a need to make some delimitation of the article. This article ought to concern the general concept of Naxalism. Material only relevant to CPI(Maoist) should be placed in the concerned article, not here. In Indian newspaper there is often no separation made between these two concepts, which can create confusions. --Soman 13:47, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I do not see the same standard applied to other ideologies on wikipedia, why here?Besides, this article is as much about Naxalites (people) as Naxalism (ideology).Rumpelstiltskin223 13:50, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Often CPI(Maoist) are simply called 'the Naxalites' in newsmedia. This sometimes creates confusion, and it is important to clarify differentiation between Naxalism in general (which encompasses at least 25 or more groups in India today) and the CPI(Maoist). We should abstain from making generalized statements like Naxalites are present in X states, have many X attacks, etc., when we in fact only refer to CPI(Maoist) (which has a separate article). --Soman 14:03, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

are you sure that this is a matter of "confiusion"? they are all networked you know Rumpelstiltskin223 14:46, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

New sections

This article needs some additional sections, like: 1) prehistory of the Naxalite movement, 2) Andhra insurgency, 3) Bihar-Jharkand insurgency, 4) Impact in Nepal/Bangladesh. --Soman 13:49, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I will do it soon. A Kaffir's work is never done *sigh. Rumpelstiltskin223 13:51, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

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It's well understood that, worldwide, groups who call themselves "marxist-Leninist" or "Maoist"show a marvelous tendency to split, resplit, and generally bitterly fight among themselves. We can observe this right here in the US. Some of these "tendencies" like to make allies and form alliances in other countries. Now for this article, it might be helpful to indicate which, if any, these Indian groups have formed alliances with groups in the US. That might make some of these lines of demarcation either to understand for people who have observed such groupings here. 74.66.82.195 (talk) 00:37, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Can never please them

Rumpel you can try all you want, but you cannot please these commies until you are singing from their commie hymn sheets. Whitewash all their outrages, forget about the genocides they engineered, then only you are a good man. On this article, they will simply overwhelm you with questions and criticism. That's a common tactic in their propaganda machinery by the way, did you know that. They know that sooner or later you'll just get fed up and give up and then they can do what they want. Looks like I have to come back and start keeping these commies in check again.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.112.9.67 (talk • contribs) 15 January 2007

Yah I know. Nevertheless, we have to follow wikipeidia rules. Personal attacks, needless incivility, throwing insults around like "commie" etc. are not a good way to make an argument.One thing they are right about. We have to make sure that, when one refers to Naxals we are talking about Naxals only and not some other Maoist outfit mis-identified as Naxals. I think that that has been achieved now, but for the future... Also, one needs to do more research on how the Naxals were involved in the Morichjhanpi massacre, if at all. I think they were involved, though I do not remember. Also, while you (and I) dislike communists and communism to the depths of our hearts, I think that it is important to be neutral about it here (WP:NPOV). After all, even articles on bloodthirsty mass-murderers like Hitler, Idi Amin,Slobodan Milosevic and others are pretty neutral, right?Rumpelstiltskin223 11:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

CPI(M) appears to an ambiguous term

Since there are two groups that could apparently fit this abbreviation – CPI(Marxist) and CPI(Maoist) – some special consideration should be given to this to avoid any confusion about which faction is being referred to (not relegating the reader to infer from the context). __meco 10:48, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I don't think that Marxists are called Naxalite, only Maoists. Maoists are banned, Marxists are not, sadly. Rumpelstiltskin223 11:29, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Ey cmon. You actually saying that "marxists SHOULD BE BANNED"? or this your idea of a joke? By the way, the CPI(Marxist) is the govt party of West Bengal for 30 years now, and arguably as democratic as any party you find in the world - I wouldnt like to compare it to the US Reps or Dems, with the heavy-handed ways THEY win elections. And politically - its a party that favours a free market economy and is what most in Europe would call a socdem party, to the left of the Bushite lil bro Blair only on foreign policy.

And, by the way, NOR are all maoist parties in India banned. Why are you writing this unlexical shit?

For the record, Im rather sceptical to the indian naxalites. But scepticism is one thing, writing an encyclopedia is something else. Im rather sceptical to the us Republican party too, like 70% on this side of the dam. However, I wouldnt dream of calling them fascists or saying that they should be forbidden. So do you relally think it is smart to write similar things about a peaceful, legal party in India like the CPI(Marxist), about which the worst thing that can be said is probably that it is rather boring? from Togrim, user of the Norwegian wikipedia, 2007-02-11 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.48.140.40 (talk) 03:19, 11 February 2007 (UTC).

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Throughout Calcutta, schools were shut down. Naxalite students took over Jadavpur University and used the machine shop facilities to make pipe guns to fight the police. Their headquarters became Presidency College in Calcutta. They are also presumed to have assassinated the vice chancellor of Jadavpur University, Dr. Gopal Sen.[4]---which year was this?

CRZ ?

Shouldn't some more info about the Compact Revolutionary Zone be added ? It seems pretty important to me... Vikram boo! 11:15, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Language I don't understand

Toward the beginning of the article is "The insurrection started on May 25, 1967 in Naxalbari village when a tribal was attacked by local authorities over a land issue. The tribals attacked the opposing landlords and the violence escalated." I don't know what "a tribal was attacked" means. Should that be "a tribal gathering"? "A tribal council"? Then in the next sentence "the tribals" attacked some people. To this US citizen, "the tribals" looks like a grammatical error. Is this an Indian English idiom I'm simply not familiar with? In the USA we would never refer to "the tribals" because "tribal" is an adjective, not a noun. CarlFink 20:24, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Have changed to "tribal" to "peasant". Have also rephrased slightly and removed reference to "local authorities", which didn't seem supported by the source cited. --82.69.202.14 11:38, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I have a similar problem with the use of "tendency" to denote, apparently, a faction or movement within the group. In "History":

A separate tendency from the beginning was the Maoist Communist Centre, … A third tendency is … That tendency broke with AICCCR at an early stage.

This usage will not be familiar to USA readers. Merriam-Webster has "tendency" defined as a "direction or approach" but nothing like this usage. ALloydFlanagan (talk) 23:22, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

remove the recent activities section

'Naxalites' are not a coherent movement, rather an umbrella term for various political factions. The current 'recent activities' chapter relates only to the CPI(Maoist), and material should be shifted there. --Soman 20:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Not CPI(M). but CPI(ML)

I was around 10 yers at the helm of Naxal movement in Calcutta. Please note that the political wing of the naxalites were called CPI(ML) i.e. Communist party of India Marxist Leninist. They had received much support from China's Mao Tse Tung. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.18.94.45 (talk) 22:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

What do they want

I came here with the question - What do they want? why the 100's of deaths? What exactly do these naxals want? a seperate state/ what do they think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.169.2.13 (talk) 13:30, 11 February 2009 (UTC) Naxalism is an agrarian and social problem. It has changed its color in course of time. The famous Naxal leader of 1970 has said that contemporary naxalism degenrate into social terrorism. Naxalism will melt with the time due to positive policies of the government. The modern day's insurgent can be tamed through various methods. Naxalism can be defeated with both military and non military ways. The implementation of the govt rural scheme is vital for engaging the tribal, who provide the support and manpower to Naxal cadre. The observance of non violence is a unique tool to defeat the naxalism. However it sounds awkward, but it is equally true that nation achieved the freedom only through non violence way.Intelligence is a paramount thing to defeat the Naxal. The intelligence gathering and intelligence sharing is a mind work to disseminate the information to end user to defeat the naxalites. For more detail read--Defeating Naxalite by Uday Kumar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Udaykr86 (talk • contribs) 04:46, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Awful, just awful.

This article is in need of a complete overhaul, it is completely bias against the Maoist-Naxalites. We aim for impartiality here on wikipedia, somebody deal with this tripe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.172.116.105 (talk) 10:52, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

If factual and accurate description of reign of terror of the maoist/naxalite is tripe then dont take the trouble to visit wikipedia. This is not the place for your personal views but with articles with neutral and accurate view. The present article is good enough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mehrrunissa (talk • contribs) 13:24, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Propaganda

This is by far the worst piece of crap ever posted on wikipedia. The naxalites are largely advaisi fighting not to be thrown off their ancestral land. Nowhere does the article mention Arundhati Roy's book on the subject or offer any differing viewpoint. Did Fox news write this, or a spy agency? A lot of the people writing here are just plain nasty. And this article is propaganda supporting genocide.

Attempt at compromise

Please participate in the discussion at Talk:Salwa Judum/Archives/2014/August#Attempt_at_compromise. Thanks.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 14:51, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Copyright

Pasting huge blocks of text from other sources into the article is a copyright violation. I'll quote from Wikipedia:Non-free content:

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That's why this section and this section aren't acceptable. Hopefully they won't be added back to the article again.Prezbo (talk) 04:30, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Manipulation of Maps

The Map of India has been manipulated to show parts of Pakistan and Chinese held Kashmir as Indian territory. As can be seen in the original map available on the picture's file page this was a propaganda driven excercise to inject a bias opinion on Kashmir issue in an article completely unrealted to it. I suggest the original map be restored immeditaly.

In addition the map has been altered in a way that makes the insurgency look less severe than it actually is e.g. the re-rendering of Hyderabad from a severely affected area into merely a targeted area. Someone is trying to play down the strength of the insurgency as well as throw a India oriented perspective on regional issues, rather than using international norms. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zenkazmi (talk • contribs) 04:59, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Indian territorrity is Indian... most you could ask for is to be shown as disputed territories with map legends showing who claims, and who actually holds. Thats it. 222.164.212.168 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:29, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Merge

I put a merger tag on Naxalite and Naxalite-Maoist insurgency. They are essentially forks, and needs to be merged (i'd prefer 'Naxalism' as the combined article, not a very common term in English, but present in Indian languages). The article on Naxalism ought to give a proper historical review of the development of Naxal movement, roughly divided in the following chapters

• ancedents in 1948-1951 stuggle, the prelude to the 1967 split
• the Naxalbari uprising
• the formation of CPI(ML)
• early phase of CPI(ML)
• division and repression under Emergency
• regrouping in late 1970s and early 1980s
• emergence of People's War and Liberation, polarization between moderate and militant trends
• consolidation of CPI(Maoist)

The material which solely relates to CPI(Maoist) ought to be shifted to that article, rather than being forked. --Soman (talk) 14:07, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Agree. The two articles cover a lot of the same material. --RDavi404 (talk) 15:23, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Oppose. Naxalite about the ideology and movement and Naxalite-Maoist insurgency about the conflict. --DAI (Δ) 13:48, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

DAI, please consider this: I think that the movement or ideology is carried out by the conflict. It seem to me that the conflict is the implementation of the Naxalite ideology. It looks like there is the Naxalite uprising but the ideology is basically radical communism. Mountleek (talk) 06:24, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Oppose. NAXALITES are the people who are in those areas controlled by militants. we out to have this article to give some description of "People" and not merely the armed political struggle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bssasidhar (talk • contribs) 11:12, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Bssasidhar, aren't the Naxalites the militants who control those areas? Mountleek (talk) 06:24, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

We, the outsiders may feel that naxalites are sime militia hell bent on violence. Still, fact remains that the the real naxalites are people in these hundreds of villages who support the armed uprising. This article needs expansion. We need to describe their way of life, beliefs..etc.--B. Srinivasa Sasidhar 15:51, 31 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bssasidhar (talk • contribs)

Agree. Two articles are not way long enough, so let's merge. Qajar (talk) 01:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Agree. They will basically state same things with same references and matter. Also,both articles are in bad shape e.g. Article "Naxalite" has a 5400+ character long section of why Naxalites failed in 1967-1975 which is over elaboration by any standard.

Swift&silent (talk) 05:25, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Oppose Per DAI and Bssasidhar.EkoGraf (talk) 08:20, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

• Comment - I think what's needed here is the use of WP:SUMMARY style. Naxalite-Maoist insurgency should be a daughter article of Naxalite, with a brief summary of the daughter article in the main article. Rd232 ^talk 01:15, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
  • Ok, I'm initiating a rewrite of this article based on my suggestion above. --Soman (talk) 17:45, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Agree {NPOV comment deleted}222.164.212.168 (talk)

Request to review the Introduction and Daily Routine sub section

@Timothyjosephwood: Maaley (talk) 13:44, 17 December 2016 (UTC) The introduction, daily routine section is not politically neutral as more emphasis have been given on the CPI(Maoist) party as if it is the only successor of the naxalite entities. As mentioned in the History section there had been several fractionation and the original CPI(ML) party had splintered into several groups. If you check the articles Communist Party of India (Maoist) and Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) you can surely find that they are two separate entities from the same timelines who participated in the same movement and the term "Naxalite" became disambiguous for both. And if you follow the trail of Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) you will find several more splintered naxalite parties among which many are not at all related to Communist Party of India (Maoist) rather have a democratic identity and have impact in todays politics, such as the one with the name Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) Liberation.What I meant to say is that referring only to the Communist Party of India (Maoist) as "Naxalite" is giving the article "Naxalite" one sided view and also specifying the article in an one sided direction lacking its diambiguos nature as it prevails. Yours sincerely, Maaley (talk) 12:48, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

2014 Map of Naxalite acitiviy

http://www.demvolkedienen.org/index.php/de/component/content/article?id=805:ausweitung-des-volkskrieges-in-indien — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:CF:83DA:1000:B0B2:F488:1EF2:17 (talk) 16:53, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

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Use of Jawan

It seems the term 'Jawan' means non commissioned, or lowly ranked officer. I can't think a good source about its meaning. Maybe it would be preferable just to use the term officer? Jonpatterns (talk) 10:45, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

you are right...or pipelink it appropriately. 222.164.212.168 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:39, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Lede - clarify meaning of Naxalite

The lede states:

A Naxal or Naxalite is a member of the Communist Party of India (Maoist). The term Naxal derives from the name of the village Naxalbari in West Bengal, where the movement had its origin. Naxalites are considered far-left radical communists, supportive of Maoist political sentiment and ideology.

This makes it seem as only members of the Communist Party of India (Maoist) are Naxalites. As far as I known Naxalite could include others that share a similar philosophy. As the article later states:

Today, some Naxalite groups have become legal organisations participating in parliamentary elections, such as the Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) Liberation and the Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) Janashakti.

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Editor @Gogalgai: removed "Urban Naxals" by Vivek Agnohotri (Publisher: Garuda Prakashan), but no reason stated. Jonpatterns (talk) 16:25, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

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Update the map to reflect 2018 status

Lot of progress has been made since 2013. Can someone update the map. Iprathik (talk) 02:49, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

New section: Tribal Participation in Naxalite Movements

I've added a new section to the page. I think it could possibly be combined with the previous section ("Causes"), but I didn't want to change someone else's work. I thought the "causes" section also used somewhat loaded language ("According to Maoist sympathizers...") as well as non-academic sourcing. My section is meant to focus particularly on the relationship between Naxalite groups and Adivasi people through ethnographic sources. I am open to feedback.

Conner.hobson (talk) 05:45, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Talk page or cesspool?

Nothing will be solved on this page, and thus, the neutrality tag on the main article will remain forever. Thanks a lot...uh, editors. 2607:FEA8:BFA0:BD0:E41B:7A86:F074:94 (talk) 15:15, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

I've deflated some of the hot air, confident that NPOV editors will agree this page is thus improved. 2607:FEA8:BFA0:BD0:E41B:7A86:F074:94 (talk) 15:24, 13 August 2020 (UTC)