Talk:Deicide (band)

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Recently, Eric Hoffman hit back at Benton claiming the real reason why they left the band is because Benton was the real one cancelling shows, walking out on tours, could barely play bass and he and his brother got sick of him.

Can we get some sources cited for this comment? --Arm 15:24, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Never heard of any release or bootleg called Anaal Ex, google bears no result. Recommend nuking it.

I re-added the statement made by Eric since I found out someone had replaced the broken version with a archived version and I accidently deleted it previously without checking. --Markendust

Satanist category

Can anyone who is familiar with this band confirm or deny their alleged satanism? Quite obviously they're anti-christian, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're satanists. I'll remove the category in a while if no one comes forward with some light to shed on this. Serpent-A 01:53, 20 May 2006 (UTC) Deicide is active for almost 20 years. They haven't wrote anything that doesn't concern religion. In many songs Glen Benton frankly hails Satan, just read some of his lyrics. Moreover, he burnt the inverted cross on his forehead and, as far as I understand, he needs to do it regularly because his skin heals up. I know several photos with Glen Benton and it's obvious that his inverted cross doesn't look the same as it did in the very beginning with Roadrunner. His son is called Demon, Glen has a lot of inverted crosses in his house. Each time as he sees a churchman he tries to fight him. Glen Benton 10:38, 16-Aug-06 (Moscow time)[reply]

In the interview with Glen Benton in Terrorizer magazine (#148) it suggests that Benton believes in the Anton LaVey representation of Satan, although he stated that he hoped the devil did have a pointy fork. The lyrics are just meant to bait Christians rather than represent his actual belief. Paul Tew 11:33, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Benton started out as a devil-worshipper and stated he acknowledged the existence of God. However nowadays his Satanism would appear to have just wallowed down to vehement anti-christian atheism, nothing more. He has frequently blasted the COS on the grounds that it is "Hollywood Satanism", and (rightfully) that it is organised religion. Religious existentialism for money. How lovely indeed. Although I think Glen's "satanism" nowadays isn't satanism at all, at least he's got some more brain cells than some of those who subscribe to LaVeyan satanism. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 90.197.220.218 (talk) 22:26, 7 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

The members of Deicide enjoy things that are "Satanic and evil". That is all that is important. Glen Benton liked to get into arguments with Christian radio host Bob Larsen for the sake of personal pleasure and building fame for his band. Many people would have never heard of Deicide if not for his very public fights with Mr. Larsen. This should give us insight to his motivation.

Would Deicide's style better be described as blackened death metal, in regards to the Satanic/anti-Christian rhetoric? --JaylieVC (talk) 18:56, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jack Owen

Why does Jack Owen link to this page? I believe he's notable enough for his own page, I mean he's been in two of the biggest death metal bands ever, Cannibal Corpse and Deicide.

I agree. Redirecting Jack Owen to this page is disregarding his entire career. He is notable enough as a guitarist, having been one of the original founding members of Cannibal Corpse, and by the recording of The Wretched Spawn, one of only three original members left in the band, the other two being bassist Alex Webster and drummer Paul Mazurkiewicz. Jack Owen deserves more credit for the influence he's had on death metal than a mere redirect. --OpenFaceSurgery 22:35, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation

Why does it specifically say Deicide is pronounced with a 'day' at the beginning? I'm pretty sure it can be pronounced 'dee' as well, just like with both pronunciations of "deity". X-pert74 03:46, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, I have never heard the band's name (as opposed to just the word "deicide") pronounced with day at the beginning. It's always been dee. --OpenFaceSurgery 22:32, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I believe that it's pronounced "dei", which does a bit of a curve in sound. English is a lazy language though and many people simplify sounds. --A Sunshade Lust 03:07, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In the song "Deicide", Glen pronounces it "DEE-uh-side" SAlpsu 21:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

how do You say(black metallers disliked american death metal bands)?

do U have any reference for this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.217.50.165 (talk) 12:20, 29 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

You can for instance read the book Swedish Death Metal by Daniel Ekeroth. It's widely known that norweigian black metal bands despised death metal in general and Swedish Death Metal in particular. Count Grishnack's (Burzum) girlfriend tried to burn down the house of the Therion-singer and Entombed were threatened to be killed if they played in Norway.

What does that have to do with Deicide? This talk about Norwegian bands not liking Swedish bands is ignorant and has nothing to do with anything to do with an article about Deicide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solgrind (talk • contribs) 08:34, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Jack Owen

I have seen bootleg video's of jack owen doing back-up vocals for deicide while deicide were touring. Should Jack Owen be referenced as "back-up Vocals" on the article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.160.134.85 (talk) 14:40, 3 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Brian Hoffman

When I visited this article, I created a single page about Brian Hoffman, the guitarist from Deicide. Tonight, when I looked for his page, I saw it was gone. How do I re-create the article about Brian? --Mr. Brain 01:31, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's a bad idea to only really mention the Hoffman brothers in a couple sentences when it was pretty much their band from the start. The tiny half paragraph "1987-2004" section doesn't really drive home the fact that the majority of the important material from this band was made during that time period. The albums made during the 90's are by far considered the most important to Deicide fans, and were what defined the sound of the group. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solgrind (talk • contribs) 08:29, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 18:53, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Particularly the Christian god/Jesus?

Where the hell did you came up with this? The Oxford dictionary only says it is the killing of A god, not any god in particular. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.160.160.99 (talk) 03:29, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that would be nonsense. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 15:07, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Come on, you know damn well that these illiterate scuzzbags probably never even looked the word up in the first place. In their mind, their band name means "Killing God," not "Killing a god." And since their attacks are leveled at the Church, the other user's assertion is perfectly reasonable. -- Andrew MacEwen —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmacewen (talk • contribs) 04:55, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Carnage?

I cannot find a source suggesting the band were originally called this. Any sources out there? If not, I'll remove it. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 15:07, 23 March 2008 (UTC) They were originally named Amon, they used this name on the 2 demos they did before the first album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.179.59.206 (talk) 05:12, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In the documentary here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83sOty2icAU the Hoffman brothers say their band was originally called Carnage before changing the name to Amon.

Ralph Santolla

I'm not a specialist of Deicide, but I just saw Ralph Santolla today for the Paris date of their last tour, so I think he may still be in the band. Maybe he left only in 2007 and came back in 2008 / 2009 ? Or he came back for this tour ? Hervegirod (talk) 22:16, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Deicide MS-DOS viruses

Has anyone heard of the Deicide MS-DOS viruses? From what I heard in a video, Glen was the one who wrote them all. I don’t know if there is any info about it anywhere since I have not done a search yet, but if you guys want to shed some light onto it, here is the YouTube link for where I saw the viruses: ^[1]. The video goes in-depth into the viruses themselves, but just gives a brief description of Glen. I think it would be an interesting topic to bring up. Chayceisawesome (talk) 07:09, 22 November 2017 (UTC)Chayce[reply]

References

^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okeyy5jIi9Y

Allmusic black metal source

This source [1] is not clear in saying whether they consider Deicide to be a black metal band. One thing is that it implies they are a black metal band in the review but not in the "styles" section. Another reason for it not being clear is that it uses the term "death metal/black metal"; it's rational to make the case that the author meant "death metal or black metal". To this end, it doesn't actually matter how strong the case is, since at this point your case that this is a valuable source that spells out that Deicide is black metal isn't that strong. So, your only choice would be to find another source.

I don't think it's wrong in using one source that states a band has been overlooked as being ____ genre (as long as there's not an overwhelming amount of sources that don't state that fact). This is especially true in less-popular music such as death metal. (Even though Deicide is a well-known metal band, they still play extreme music, so the quantity of sources won't be as high as, for example, Prince, where no one should be arguing about what genres he played.) The reason it doesn't apply here is because the source is also unclear. Themagicpebble (talk) 03:22, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okeyy5jIi9Y

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